{"id":134122,"date":"2022-10-07T15:47:32","date_gmt":"2022-10-07T13:47:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/?p=134122"},"modified":"2025-08-14T15:04:53","modified_gmt":"2025-08-14T13:04:53","slug":"une-nouvelle-explication-de-la-conscience-2022-ne-date-t-elle-pas-en-realite-de-1999","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/2022\/10\/07\/une-nouvelle-explication-de-la-conscience-2022-ne-date-t-elle-pas-en-realite-de-1999\/","title":{"rendered":"<b>\u00ab\u00a0Une nouvelle explication de la conscience\u00a0\u00bb (2022)&#8230; ne date-t-elle pas en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 de 1999&nbsp;?<\/b>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-4462\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/ANELLA-Network-231x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"231\" height=\"231\" \/><\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;un de vous m&rsquo;\u00e9crit \u00e0 8h02 :<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em>\u00c7a me rappelle quelque chose\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em><b>A New Explanation for Consciousness &#8211; Neuroscience News<\/b><\/em><br \/>\n<em><a href=\"https:\/\/flip.it\/sTfvW3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/flip.it\/sTfvW3&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1664950643669000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0skh1E4BHOqk7IrZN-kFCA\">https:\/\/neurosciencenews.com\/<wbr \/>consciousness-theory-21571\/<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em>Voir l&rsquo;article + plus sur Flipboard<\/em><br \/>\n<em><a href=\"https:\/\/flip.it\/Wh6rKd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/flip.it\/Wh6rKd&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1664950643669000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1jNEimZjVxPC2Ew-ug9inN\">https:\/\/flip.it\/Wh6rKd<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Et voici la d\u00e9p\u00eache en question :<\/p>\n<p><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/neurosciencenews.com\/consciousness-theory-21571\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Une nouvelle explication de la conscience<\/a><\/strong><\/em>, 3 octobre 2022<\/p>\n<p>R\u00e9sum\u00e9 : Une nouvelle th\u00e9orie de la conscience sugg\u00e8re que les d\u00e9cisions sont prises inconsciemment, puis environ une demi-seconde plus tard, elles deviennent conscientes.<\/p>\n<p>Source : Universit\u00e9 de Boston<\/p>\n<p><em>La \u00ab\u00a0conscience\u00a0\u00bb, c&rsquo;est la conscience que vous avez de vous-m\u00eame et du monde qui vous entoure. Cette conscience est subjective et vous est propre.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Un chercheur de la facult\u00e9 de m\u00e9decine Chobanian &amp; Avedisian de l&rsquo;universit\u00e9 de Boston a \u00e9labor\u00e9 une nouvelle th\u00e9orie de la conscience, expliquant pourquoi elle s&rsquo;est d\u00e9velopp\u00e9e, \u00e0 quoi elle sert, quels troubles l&rsquo;affectent et pourquoi il est si difficile de suivre un r\u00e9gime (et de r\u00e9sister \u00e0 d&rsquo;autres envies).<\/p>\n<p>\u00ab\u00a0En r\u00e9sum\u00e9, notre th\u00e9orie est que la conscience s&rsquo;est d\u00e9velopp\u00e9e comme un syst\u00e8me de m\u00e9moire utilis\u00e9 par notre cerveau inconscient pour nous aider \u00e0 imaginer l&rsquo;avenir de mani\u00e8re flexible et cr\u00e9ative et \u00e0 planifier en cons\u00e9quence\u00a0\u00bb, explique l&rsquo;auteur correspondant Andrew Budson, MD, professeur de neurologie.<\/p>\n<p>\u00ab\u00a0Ce qui est compl\u00e8tement nouveau dans cette th\u00e9orie, c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;elle sugg\u00e8re que nous ne percevons pas le monde, ne prenons pas de d\u00e9cisions et n&rsquo;effectuons pas d&rsquo;actions directement. Au lieu de cela, nous faisons toutes ces choses inconsciemment et ensuite &#8211; environ une demi-seconde plus tard &#8211; nous nous rappelons consciemment les avoir faites.\u00a0\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>Budson a expliqu\u00e9 qu&rsquo;il a d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 cette th\u00e9orie avec ses coauteurs, le philosophe Kenneth Richman, PhD, du Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences, et la psychologue Elizabeth Kensinger, PhD, du Boston College, pour expliquer une s\u00e9rie de ph\u00e9nom\u00e8nes qui ne pouvaient pas \u00eatre facilement compris avec les th\u00e9ories ant\u00e9rieures de la conscience.<\/p>\n<p>\u00ab\u00a0Nous savions que les processus conscients \u00e9taient tout simplement trop lents pour \u00eatre activement impliqu\u00e9s dans la musique, le sport et d&rsquo;autres activit\u00e9s n\u00e9cessitant des r\u00e9flexes d&rsquo;une fraction de seconde. Mais si la conscience n&rsquo;est pas impliqu\u00e9e dans de tels processus, alors une meilleure explication de ce que fait la conscience \u00e9tait n\u00e9cessaire\u00a0\u00bb, a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 Budson, qui est \u00e9galement chef du service de neurologie cognitive et comportementale, chef adjoint du personnel pour l&rsquo;\u00e9ducation et directeur du centre de neurosciences cognitives translationnelles du Veterans Affairs (VA) Boston Healthcare System.<\/p>\n<p>Selon les chercheurs, cette th\u00e9orie est importante car elle explique que toutes nos d\u00e9cisions et actions sont en fait prises inconsciemment, bien que nous nous trompions en croyant que nous les avons prises consciemment. Traduit avec www.DeepL.com\/Translator (version gratuite)<\/p>\n<p>\u00c0 10h23, un autre d&rsquo;entre vous m&rsquo;\u00e9crit :<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Je n\u2019ai pas encore lu l\u2019article scientifique, mais sur la base de l\u2019article journalistique, il y a de quoi r\u00e9clamer la paternit\u00e9 de la d\u00e9couverte\u2026<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>En effet, il s&rsquo;agit bien de ce que j&rsquo;ai expliqu\u00e9 dans un article publi\u00e9 en 1999 dans la revue <em>L&rsquo;Homme<\/em> (150, 1999 : 177-202) : <a href=\"http:\/\/www.persee.fr\/doc\/hom_0439-4216_1999_num_39_150_453573\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Le secret de la chambre chinoise<\/em><\/a>, traduit en anglais en tant que <a href=\"https:\/\/escholarship.org\/uc\/item\/1mw1b584#main\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Chinese Room\u2019s Secret<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;avais anticip\u00e9 en \u00e9crivant quelques minutes plus t\u00f4t le message suivant \u00e0 Andrew Budson, premier auteur de l&rsquo;article :<\/p>\n<p><b>De : <\/b>JORION Paul<br \/>\n<b>Envoy\u00e9 : <\/b>mardi 4 octobre 2022 10:13<br \/>\n<b>\u00c0 :<\/b>abudson@bu.edu &lt;abudson@bu.edu&gt;<br \/>\n<b>Objet : <\/b>Consciousness (1999)&lt;<\/p>\n<p>Dear Professor Budson, or should I say \u00ab\u00a0Dear Andrew\u00a0\u00bb?<\/p>\n<p>Congratulations to you and your co-authors for your great work!<br \/>\nIn case you were unaware of an article of mine published some twenty years ago, here is the link to \u00ab\u00a0The Chinese Room\u2019s Secret\u00a0\u00bb (1999):<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/escholarship.org\/uc\/item\/1mw1b584#main<\/p>\n<p><i>Starting from a reflection by Jean Pouillon, it is shown &#8211; both deductively and on the basis of experimental data &#8211; that consciousness is deprived of any decisional power. Consciousness&rsquo; role is reduced to transmitting to the body instructions based on the emotional response to percepts. Language allows human beings to generate a self-justifying narrative of their deeds. Such an account does not reflect, however, the actual psychological mechanism at work. Consciousness&rsquo; actual effectiveness resides in influencing on the one hand the affect of the speaker (as speech or as \u201cinner speech\u201d), and on the other hand the affect of any listener. The pair \u201cbody\u201d and \u201csoul\u201d gets thus validated, but their traditionally assigned responsibilities need reassigning between one body that decides and acts and one soul whose feedback operates at the affective level only.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Once again, congratulations!<\/p>\n<p>Best wishes,<\/p>\n<p>Paul Jorion, Ph.D.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mise \u00e0 jour, le 7 octobre \u00e0 15h47<\/strong> :<\/p>\n<p><b>De :<\/b>\u00a0Budson, Andrew E &lt;<a href=\"mailto:abudson@bu.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">abudson@bu.edu<\/a>&gt;<br \/>\n<b>Envoy\u00e9 :<\/b>\u00a0vendredi 7 octobre 2022 14:11<br \/>\n<b>\u00c0 :<\/b>\u00a0JORION Paul &lt;<a href=\"mailto:Paul.JORION@univ-catholille.fr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Paul.JORION@univ-catholille.<wbr \/>fr<\/a>&gt;<br \/>\n<b>Objet :<\/b>\u00a0Re: Consciousness (1999)<\/p>\n<p>Thank you, Paul, for your email and your interest in our work! I did not know of your article but look forward to reading it.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks again for reaching out, and feel\u00a0free to keep in touch if you have further\u00a0thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>best<\/p>\n<p>Andrew<\/p>\n<p>Andrew E. Budson, M.D.<\/p>\n<p>Chief, Cognitive &amp; Behavioral Neurology\u00a0and<br \/>\nAssociate Chief of Staff for Education,\u00a0VA Boston Healthcare System<br \/>\n150 South Huntington Avenue, 10B-67,\u00a0Boston, MA 02130<br \/>\nAssociate Director &amp; Education Core\u00a0Leader, Boston University Alzheimer&rsquo;s\u00a0Disease Center<br \/>\nProfessor of Neurology, Boston\u00a0University School of Medicine<br \/>\nLecturer in Neurology, Harvard Medical\u00a0School<br \/>\n857-364-6184,\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:abudson@bu.edu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">abudson@bu.edu<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bu.edu\/alzresearch\/profile\/andrew-budson-md\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.bu.edu\/alzresearch\/profile\/andrew-budson-md\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665236631576000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3l3V77mJfgUdztPsqaPeec\"><wbr \/>https:\/\/www.bu.edu\/<wbr \/>alzresearch\/profile\/andrew-<wbr \/>budson-md\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>De : <\/b>JORION Paul &lt;Paul.JORION@univ-catholille.fr&gt;<br \/>\n<b>Envoy\u00e9 : <\/b>vendredi 7 octobre 2022 15:35<br \/>\n<b>\u00c0 : <\/b>Budson, Andrew E &lt;abudson@bu.edu<br \/>\n<b>Objet : <\/b>RE: Consciousness (1999)<\/p>\n<p>Thank you Andrew!<\/p>\n<p>I hope you&rsquo;ll enjoy reading my 1999 paper. There might be within it some further alleys along your line that you and your co-authors will think fruitful to explore.<\/p>\n<p>Best wishes,<\/p>\n<p>Paul Jorion, Ph.D.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mise \u00e0 jour le 8 octobre \u00e0 17h46<\/strong> :<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">De\u00a0:\u00a0<strong>Richman, Kenneth<\/strong>\u00a0&lt;kenneth.richman@mcphs.edu&gt;<br \/>\nDate: sam. 8 oct. 2022 \u00e0\u00a017:12<br \/>\nSubject: FW: [EXT]: Fwd: New Form Entry: Contact Form<br \/>\nTo: pauljorion@gmail.com &lt;pauljorion@gmail.com&gt;<\/p>\n<p>Thank you for your interesting message! I had seen the title of your article, and am glad to know more about its content. Your support for dualism is not compatible with our understanding, or at least not with our way of describing the mind. It sounds like there are other aspects of our views that are more consistent with one another, however.<\/p>\n<p>I hope to look at your article soon.<\/p>\n<p>Best,<\/p>\n<p>Ken<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.richmanweb.com\/\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=http:\/\/www.richmanweb.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1665328854376000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1myeyNBtb7S5v7FNV54bGd\">www.richmanweb.com<\/a><\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\n<td>\u00a0\u200b<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Kenneth<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>Richman<\/td>\n<td>,<\/td>\n<td>PhD<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<table style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Professor\u00a0of\u00a0Philosophy\u00a0and\u00a0Health\u00a0Care\u00a0Ethics<\/td>\n<td>,<\/td>\n<td>Chair,\u00a0Institutional\u00a0Review\u00a0Board<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\n<td>School\u00a0of\u00a0Arts\u00a0and\u00a0Sciences<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>De : Paul Jorion <pauljorion@gmail.com>\nDate: sam. 8 oct. 2022 \u00e0 17:44<br \/>\nSubject: Re: FW: [EXT]: Fwd: New Form Entry: Contact Form<br \/>\nTo: Richman, Kenneth <kenneth.richman@mcphs.edu><\/p>\n<p>Dear Kenneth,<\/p>\n<p>Thanks so much for your response. In truth, dualism couldn&rsquo;t be further away from my own mind (no pun intended!)<br \/>\nHoping to hear from you soon with additional feedback.<\/p>\n<p>Best wishes,<\/p>\n<p>Paul<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-4462\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/ANELLA-Network-231x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"231\" height=\"231\" \/><\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;un de vous m&rsquo;\u00e9crit \u00e0 8h02 :<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em>\u00c7a me rappelle quelque chose\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em><b>A New Explanation for Consciousness &#8211; Neuroscience News<\/b><\/em><br \/> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/flip.it\/sTfvW3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/flip.it\/sTfvW3&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1664950643669000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0skh1E4BHOqk7IrZN-kFCA\">https:\/\/neurosciencenews.com\/<wbr \/>consciousness-theory-21571\/<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\"><em>Voir l&rsquo;article + plus sur Flipboard<\/em><br \/> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/flip.it\/Wh6rKd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/flip.it\/Wh6rKd&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1664950643669000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1jNEimZjVxPC2Ew-ug9inN\">https:\/\/flip.it\/Wh6rKd<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p> [&hellip;]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,5],"tags":[8921,8918,1803,8920,8919],"class_list":["post-134122","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-psychanalyse","category-sciences-cognitives","tag-a-new-explanation-for-consciousness","tag-andrew-budson","tag-conscience","tag-elizabeth-kensinger","tag-kenneth-richman"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/134122","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=134122"}],"version-history":[{"count":21,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/134122\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":144970,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/134122\/revisions\/144970"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=134122"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=134122"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=134122"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}