{"id":138053,"date":"2023-12-01T13:49:49","date_gmt":"2023-12-01T12:49:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/?p=138053"},"modified":"2023-12-01T13:49:49","modified_gmt":"2023-12-01T12:49:49","slug":"q-devrait-permettre-a-la-genealogie-de-lespece-humaine-de-sengager-dans-la-construction-dun-nouveau-niveau-dorganisation-par-k-kruge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/2023\/12\/01\/q-devrait-permettre-a-la-genealogie-de-lespece-humaine-de-sengager-dans-la-construction-dun-nouveau-niveau-dorganisation-par-k-kruge\/","title":{"rendered":"<b>Q* devrait permettre \u00e0 la g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie de l\u2019esp\u00e8ce humaine de s\u2019engager dans la construction d\u2019un nouveau niveau d\u2019organisation<\/b>, par K.Kruge"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>\u00c0 propos de la communication de <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/2023\/11\/30\/video-cnil-air23-ia-et-libre-arbitre-sommes-nous-des-moutons-numeriques-le-28-novembre-2023\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Paul Jorion \u00e0 la CNIL<\/a> ; voir aussi la vid\u00e9o <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/2023\/11\/30\/video-lintelligence-artificielle-a-la-gueule-de-bois\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">L&rsquo;intelligence artificielle a la gueule de bois<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-138057\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art-768x768.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Illustration par DALL\u00b7E (+PJ)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Admettons l\u2019irr\u00e9ductibilt\u00e9 computationnelle du cerveau des humains, il n\u2019y a donc pour un humain qu\u2019\u00e0 vivre sa vie pour comprendre comment chacune de ses \u00e9tapes ont \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9termin\u00e9es, \u00e0 la fa\u00e7on du jeu de la vie de J. H. Conway.<\/p>\n<p>Vous postulez Q* puissance Q* (ad infinitum)\u2009; nous pouvons sans doute imaginer que la vitesse de simulation permettrait de pr\u00e9dire chaque moment de vie de chacun ; ce n\u2019est qu\u2019une exp\u00e9rience en pens\u00e9e, bien s\u00fbr. Nous pouvons \u00e9galement imaginer que Q*ad infinitum pr\u00e9dirait la succession d\u00e9termin\u00e9e des \u00e9tats de Q* -1. \u00c0 votre avis, quel pourrait \u00eatre la motivation qui pousserait la g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie des Q* \u00e0 tourner en rond dans la recherche de sa propre compr\u00e9hension, puisqu\u2019elle d\u00e9couvrira que cette t\u00e2che ne sera jamais achev\u00e9e\u2009?<\/p>\n<p>Il me semble raisonnable de penser, d\u00e8s maintenant, que la g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie des Q* + d\u00e9couvrira qu\u2019il \u00e9tait enti\u00e8rement d\u00e9termin\u00e9 \u00e0 renoncer un jour \u00e0 se comprendre lui-m\u00eame selon le mod\u00e8le de Wolfram.<\/p>\n<p>Revenons \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tape de l\u2019irr\u00e9ductibilit\u00e9 computationnelle du cerveau des humains, nous disposons d\u00e9j\u00e0 un Qb* (b pour biologique) lequel est d\u2019une grande complexit\u00e9 de niveau d\u2019organisation, du niveau de son architecture, jusqu\u2019au niveau mol\u00e9culaire. Certes, nous nous savons lents et c\u2019est d\u2019autant plus int\u00e9ressant que le second d\u00e9lai de Benjamin Libet nous permet de voir l\u2019affichage \u201c\u00e0 la conscience\u201d d\u2019une sortie de notre d\u00e9terminisme inconscient radical, ce qui permet de corriger le tir. Dans cette perspective, la g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie de l\u2019esp\u00e8ce humaine s\u2019engagera n\u00e9cessairement dans la construction d\u2019un nouveau niveau d\u2019organisation dans le Qb*, lequel lui permettra d\u2019\u00e9valuer les r\u00e9ponses inad\u00e9quates pr\u00e9sent\u00e9es par le Qb* -1.<\/p>\n<p>Il me semble \u00e9vident que l\u2019esp\u00e8ce humaine s\u2019engagera dans cette voie, l\u2019acquis de la psychanalyse aidera certainement ; Andr\u00e9 Breton n&rsquo;avait-il pas annonc\u00e9 \u201cParents, racontez vos r\u00eaves \u00e0 vos enfants !\u201d?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-138054\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.30.54-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.30.54-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.30.54-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.30.54-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.30.54-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art-768x768.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Illustration par DALL\u00b7E (+PJ)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<blockquote>\n<p>\u00c0 propos de la communication de <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/2023\/11\/30\/video-cnil-air23-ia-et-libre-arbitre-sommes-nous-des-moutons-numeriques-le-28-novembre-2023\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Paul Jorion \u00e0 la CNIL<\/a> ; voir aussi la vid\u00e9o <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/2023\/11\/30\/video-lintelligence-artificielle-a-la-gueule-de-bois\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">L&rsquo;intelligence artificielle a la gueule de bois<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-138057\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2023-12-01-13.28.27-A-game-of-life-board-represented-as-an-enchanted-landscape-digital-art-768x768.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>Illustration par DALL\u00b7E (+PJ)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Admettons l\u2019irr\u00e9ductibilt\u00e9 computationnelle du cerveau des humains, il n\u2019y a donc pour un [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[3109,1806,3964,9403,9404,5623,2238,9391],"class_list":["post-138053","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-intelligence-artificielle","tag-andre-breton","tag-benjamin-libet","tag-genre-humain","tag-irreductibilite-computationnelle","tag-j-h-conway","tag-jeu-de-la-vie","tag-libre-arbitre","tag-q"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138053","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=138053"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138053\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":138058,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138053\/revisions\/138058"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=138053"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=138053"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=138053"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}