{"id":141839,"date":"2024-10-19T16:57:41","date_gmt":"2024-10-19T14:57:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/?p=141839"},"modified":"2024-10-19T23:20:42","modified_gmt":"2024-10-19T21:20:42","slug":"un-nouveau-nous-pour-des-temps-nouveaux-ii-un-va-et-vient-dans-le-decentrage-et-le-recentrage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/2024\/10\/19\/un-nouveau-nous-pour-des-temps-nouveaux-ii-un-va-et-vient-dans-le-decentrage-et-le-recentrage\/","title":{"rendered":"<b>UN NOUVEAU \u00ab\u00a0NOUS \u00bb POUR DES TEMPS NOUVEAUX. II. Un va-et-vient dans le d\u00e9centrage et le recentrage<\/b>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-141840\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"1792\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit.webp 1792w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit-300x171.webp 300w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit-1024x585.webp 1024w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit-768x439.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit-1536x878.webp 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1792px) 100vw, 1792px\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Illustration par DALL\u00b7E \u00e0 partir du texte<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Un va-et-vient dans le d\u00e9centrage et le recentrage de la d\u00e9finition du \u00ab nous \u00bb<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Qui croyons-nous devoir prot\u00e9ger en dernier ressort, en ultime recours : les membres d&rsquo;un \u00ab nous \u00bb strictement d\u00e9fini chez les uns et de mani\u00e8re floue chez les autres, lorsque les choses tournent mal, comme cela arrive malheureusement \u00e0 r\u00e9p\u00e9tition sur cette plan\u00e8te \u00e9prouv\u00e9e qui est la n\u00f4tre, et qu&rsquo;il ne reste plus d&rsquo;autre solution que de lutter avec ce qu&rsquo;il nous reste de forces ? Cette plan\u00e8te est la n\u00f4tre, \u00e0 nous tous : cr\u00e9atures petites et grandes. Cette plan\u00e8te de tout ce qui nous entoure, \u00e0 l\u2019heure qu\u2019il est.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">\u00c0 travers les \u00e2ges, la d\u00e9finition de ce que nous sommes a vari\u00e9 d&rsquo;un endroit \u00e0 l&rsquo;autre et \u00e0 l&rsquo;int\u00e9rieur d&rsquo;un m\u00eame lieu. L&rsquo;histoire est celle d&rsquo;un d\u00e9centrage constant, d&rsquo;une perte de focalisation par la d\u00e9couverte de \u00ab Sauvages\u00a0\u00bbstup\u00e9fiants \u00e0 nos yeux, de \u00ab\u00a0Barbares\u00a0\u00bb redoutables \u00e0 nos yeux, et d&rsquo;autres peuples indubitablement \u00ab\u00a0civilis\u00e9s \u00bb, mais d&rsquo;une mani\u00e8re si inconfortablement diff\u00e9rente de la n\u00f4tre. Notre d\u00e9finition du \u00ab\u00a0nous\u00a0\u00bb s&rsquo;est ensuite \u00e9triqu\u00e9e au cours des guerres civiles de religion, avant de s&rsquo;\u00e9largir en p\u00e9riode de r\u00e9conciliation, sans retour n\u00e9cessairement \u00e0 la case d\u00e9part.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">La question est double ou, mieux encore, elle se scinde imm\u00e9diatement. Quelle est l&rsquo;identit\u00e9 de ceux que nous appelons \u00ab\u00a0nous\u00a0\u00bb, ce que les logiciens appellent l&rsquo;<i>extension<\/i> du concept de \u00ab\u00a0nous\u00a0\u00bb, et une fois cette facette de la question r\u00e9solue, ou du moins ayant re\u00e7u un d\u00e9but de r\u00e9ponse, quels sont les traits identificatoires que nous avons retenus pour une d\u00e9finition de ce \u00ab\u00a0nous\u00a0\u00bb : comment caract\u00e9riser ce qui fait l&rsquo;essence de \u00ab\u00a0nous\u00a0\u00bb par opposition aux \u00ab\u00a0autres\u00a0\u00bb : par contraste avec tous ces autres, c&rsquo;est-\u00e0-dire ce que les logiciens appellent cette fois, la <i>compr\u00e9hension<\/i> du concept ?<\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\">Esquissons ce d\u00e9veloppement historique jusqu&rsquo;au moment r\u00e9cent o\u00f9 les humains ont construit une intelligence semblable \u00e0 la leur, au moins aussi intelligente qu&rsquo;elle et peut-\u00eatre m\u00eame plus intelligente \u00e0 chaque jour qui passe.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-141844\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.47.25-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-the-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-The-diverse-human-figures-are-now-ar.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"1792\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.47.25-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-the-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-The-diverse-human-figures-are-now-ar.webp 1792w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.47.25-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-the-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-The-diverse-human-figures-are-now-ar-300x171.webp 300w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.47.25-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-the-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-The-diverse-human-figures-are-now-ar-1024x585.webp 1024w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.47.25-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-the-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-The-diverse-human-figures-are-now-ar-768x439.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.47.25-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-the-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-The-diverse-human-figures-are-now-ar-1536x878.webp 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1792px) 100vw, 1792px\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Illustration par DALL\u00b7E \u00e0 partir du texte<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-141840\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"1792\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit.webp 1792w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit-300x171.webp 300w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit-1024x585.webp 1024w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit-768x439.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/DALL\u00b7E-2024-10-19-16.49.16-A-conceptual-illustration-focusing-on-a-structural-and-mathematically-defined-evolution-of-the-collective-we.-Diverse-human-figures-are-arranged-wit-1536x878.webp 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1792px) 100vw, 1792px\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em>Illustration par DALL\u00b7E \u00e0 partir du texte<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Un va-et-vient dans le d\u00e9centrage et le recentrage de la d\u00e9finition du \u00ab nous \u00bb<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Qui croyons-nous devoir prot\u00e9ger en dernier ressort, en ultime recours : les membres d&rsquo;un \u00ab nous \u00bb strictement d\u00e9fini chez les uns 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