{"id":230,"date":"2010-10-05T21:18:04","date_gmt":"2010-10-05T20:18:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog_en\/?p=230"},"modified":"2010-10-05T21:18:04","modified_gmt":"2010-10-05T20:18:04","slug":"and-then-paul-jorion-created-a-theory-of-prices","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog_en\/2010\/10\/05\/and-then-paul-jorion-created-a-theory-of-prices\/","title":{"rendered":"And then Paul Jorion created a Theory of Prices"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Original Post : <a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.co.uk\/and-then-paul-jorion-created-the-theory-of-prices\">And then Paul Jorion created a Theory of Prices<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div>Translated by\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.co.uk\/index.php?author=9\">Lorna Miskelly<\/a>.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/?p=15883#more-15883\" target=\"_blank\">See the original article in French<\/a><br \/>\nArticle also translated in:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.fr\/?p=6848\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wikio.fr\/shared\/images\/flags\/flag_fr.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.es\/?p=3862\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wikio.fr\/shared\/images\/flags\/flag_es.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.it\/?p=6505\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wikio.fr\/shared\/images\/flags\/flag_it.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.de\/?p=3851\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wikio.fr\/shared\/images\/flags\/flag_de.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>It\u2019s the \u2018rentr\u00e9e litt\u00e9raire\u2019 in France. Among the 700 books that will be released between now and the end of October -500 of which are written in French- there is one that has grabbed us. \u201cLe Prix\u201d (The Price) written by the economist and blogger Paul Jorion. After having published a essay in 2009 about the invention of truth and reality, he has now formulated his \u201ctheory of prices\u201d in this latest opus. Jorion, surprised by the way that prices are determined in the artisinal fishing industry in Brittany and in Africa wanted to get down to the bottom of this problem. Is price established (as we are told) according to the point where supply and demand meet? Or rather a system bringing truth and price together?<\/p>\n<p><strong>My latest book,<em> Le prix<\/em> (<em>The Price<\/em>, \u00c9ditions du Croquant) has just been released.<\/strong> As was the case for\u00a0<em>Comment la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 et la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 furent invent\u00e9es (How Truth and Reality Were Invented<\/em>, Gallimard 2009), this is a book that I have worked on for quite some time.\u00a0<strong>It consists of my observations on price determination over a period of thirty-six years <\/strong>in the Breton fish markets, the makeshift markets on the beaches of Africa and the trading rooms of European and American banks.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It is really an anthropologist\u2019s book.<\/strong> I\u2019m used to saying \u201cI am not an economist\u201d. Now, I have gone beyond this negative perception and I have advanced onto economists\u2019 territory and said to them;<strong>\u201cYou need a theory of prices: here it is!\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Exactly one year ago, at a conference in Arc et Senans, a rather irritated economist stormed up to the blackboard, drew two curves that crossed and turned back towards the room, saying: \u201cPrice determination is really very simple; it is the point where supply and demand meet!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>It is so simple that that is not how it works. <\/strong>I wanted to ask him: \u201cAre you absolutely sure? Have you ever confirmed that with the figures?\u201d I didn\u2019t do so for two reasons.<\/p>\n<p>The first reason was due to the fact that he was the type of economist that would have quite simply taken me for a madman. The second reason was that I already knew the answer; I had tried to verify the above supposition with the figures and the verdict was also very simple, it didn\u2019t work.<\/p>\n<p>To get you salivating, I have included the introduction of\u00a0<em>The Price<\/em> below:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Truth and Price<\/strong><br \/>\nI wrote a book about\u00a0<em>How Truth and Reality Were Invented (Comment la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 et la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 furent invent\u00e9es<\/em>, Gallimard 2009). This book falls under the realm of epistemology, or the philosophy of science. The book you are holding comes from a politico-economic or anthropological economics perspective. However, the two books are linked due to the fact that I used the same methods for both of them.<\/p>\n<p>What allowed me to do this is the two phenomena -that of truth and price- exhibit an identical structure; the only difference between the two of them is that\u00a0<strong>truth is expressed with words and price with numbers. <\/strong>If we speak about truth, we are talking about the very fact that something functions like a price and if we speak about price, we are talking about the very fact that something functions as the truth.\u00a0<strong>It could be said that price is the truth of human things expressed in numbers and price that of humans things expressed in words.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u2026\/\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>A price necessarily involves two people, a buyer and a seller. The truth also calls for two people, the interlocutors, <\/strong>Austin, the philosopher of language wrote one day: \u201c It takes two to make a truth\u201d (Austin 1970 [1950]:124). In the constitution of truth words are exchanged. If an agreement had been reached about the same sentence, so that each party could separately say \u201cI believe it\u201d and the parties together \u201cwe know it\u201d then\u00a0<strong>they would have formed some<em>shared knowledge<\/em><\/strong>; and in doing so they would have forged a connection which now means that there is a bit of one person in the other person and vice versa. They could meet several years later without having seen one another since then and would be surprised to realise that in parallel their thoughts had followed the same path over that period, as if they had been continuing to create the truth together. This is what physicists call\u00a0<strong>the\u00a0<em>principle of non\u2013separability<\/em><\/strong> with regards to elementary particles. In the constitution of price, numbers are exchanged and if an agreement is reached on the same number then money is given in exchange for a commodity (material or immaterial), the person who possessed the commodity ends up with money whilst the other person who possessed the money ends up with the commodity. The exchange created a connection between the two parties that decided upon a price and they would be more than willing to do it again.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The system of truth in our culture is called Science while the system of price in our culture is called Economics.<br \/>\n<\/strong>Our modern societies are entirely under the control of the dual action of these two systems. There are very few things in our societies that cannot easily be explained by Science or Economics or by the two in conjunction. The scholar who produces science has replaced what was once the place of the Wise One, the business man who produces prices has replaced the Warrior; as for the place of the Saint, there are not a lot of takers\u2026<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thank you Jan Bruegel for having painted this splendid fish market which gives for a no less splendid book cover. Thank you Alain Oriot for having produced\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/atheles.org\/editionsducroquant\/dynamiquessocioeconomiques\/leprix\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">a very beautiful book which you can find here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Le-prix.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10119\" title=\"Jan Bruegel\" src=\"http:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Le-prix.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"590\" height=\"795\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Original Post : <a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.co.uk\/and-then-paul-jorion-created-the-theory-of-prices\">And then Paul Jorion created a Theory of Prices<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div>Translated by\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.co.uk\/index.php?author=9\">Lorna Miskelly<\/a>.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pauljorion.com\/blog\/?p=15883#more-15883\" target=\"_blank\">See the original article in French<\/a><br \/> Article also translated in:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.fr\/?p=6848\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wikio.fr\/shared\/images\/flags\/flag_fr.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.es\/?p=3862\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wikio.fr\/shared\/images\/flags\/flag_es.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.it\/?p=6505\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wikio.fr\/shared\/images\/flags\/flag_it.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/e-blogs.wikio.de\/?p=3851\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wikio.fr\/shared\/images\/flags\/flag_de.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>It\u2019s the \u2018rentr\u00e9e litt\u00e9raire\u2019 in France. 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